01:10:59	Alex Green:	5% surprised if lower than 50%
01:11:14	E07:	20%, 70%, 40%
01:11:27	E14:	50%, 90%, 75%
01:11:30	E07:	I wish I was a watermelon expert
01:11:31	E06:	3%, 70%, 40%
01:11:35	E12:	15%, 75%, 45%
01:11:37	E03:	30, 75, 40
01:11:39	E11:	10%, 80%, 65%
01:11:40	E22:	15% 90% 60%
01:11:42	E09:	10 90 70
01:11:47	E20:	oh man - am gonna go with 25% 90%, and 98% but don't really know
01:11:54	E01:	40% 85% 76%
01:12:03	E13:	20 70 40
01:12:04	E18:	30% 65% 97%
01:12:08	E08:	15 90 70
01:12:08	Alex Green:	50% 80% 70%
01:12:09	E02:	5 90 20?   
01:12:14	E16:	20,70,50
01:12:18	E04:	10, 65, 90
01:12:25	E20:	(soz that was in the wrong order - should be 25, 95, 98)
01:12:36	E05:	30 80 60
01:13:20	F18:	Also did it the wrong way round. So used to putting things in numerical order
01:13:48	E21:	10, 60, 60
01:13:55	E17:	50, 90, 75
01:14:01	E20:	It seems I am neither an expert on watermelons, nor even putting numbers in the right order :-)
01:14:24	E02:	my brain wants it to add up to 100
01:14:34	E21:	Sorry I had to investigate a bang at the crucial moment
01:14:53	E02:	I google the percentage... sorry. couldn't help myself
01:15:05	E07:	cheat!
01:15:17	E02:	research ;)
01:16:16	E20:	the tension!
01:16:38	E13:	Which order should we have answered the question in? There seems to have been some confusion
01:16:54	Alex Green:	5%, 95% then 50%
01:17:09	E13:	Great, thanks
01:27:43	E20:	this is really clear thanks Martine
01:27:44	E07:	All makes sense!
01:28:04	E08:	will we need to share definitons of terms we are using?
01:31:55	E20:	thanks all. Quite excited about this!
01:32:03	E02:	thank you
01:32:09	E07:	Yes looking forward to getting stuck in!
02:10:25	E02:	or GLAM?
02:13:06	E02:	agree, the word analysis would be confusing akin to appraisal
02:13:31	E13:	Agree - identification would be better
02:13:51	E02:	:)
02:14:05	E11:	agree identification is more appropriate than analysis
02:14:32	E18:	Is it about pre existing knowledge of a tool or having the capacity and confidence to go find a tool and learn how to do it?
02:20:25	E18:	Does that include having the funding to send damaged things to external experts?
02:22:03	E18:	It's similar to hiring a contractor
02:22:25	E11:	but then the capability isn't within their organisation?
02:23:06	E11:	ok
02:23:16	E09:	I guess it would be that they are able to identify appropriate external experts
02:23:28	E02:	yes
02:23:31	E20:	yes
02:23:33	E11:	yes
02:25:17	E02:	old format / versions
02:25:44	E01:	Is it opening it now or opening it in the future  - the answers will be very different?
02:25:51	E11:	should this be how many of the 1000 are rendered to an acceptable level
02:27:21	E18:	This is quite hard when you consider what file formats and your organisations structure. One running on mac and another on windows would be very different. Including download possibilities. THere are so many variables.
02:29:40	E13:	Is it about having the tools in your organisation?
02:29:53	E13:	OR being able to access the tools outside the organisationn
02:30:23	E06:	surely it should be within - if we're trying to use the tool to demonstrate the risk internally
02:31:00	E06:	but you have to demo first that you don't have them and you need them
02:33:57	E11:	E12 I agree it does switch half-way through
02:35:45	E11:	I don't have an archive but was going to use my last employment 
02:36:13	E20:	I would render one thousand files and I would open one thousand more … la la la
02:36:44	E21:	I’ve just been thinking if I have 1000 files on my computer, how many of them would I expect to be able to have the tools to render. So there could be corrupt ones that I don’t have the tools. Am I missing the point of the question?
02:38:33	E14:	I think leave aside the possibility of corruption for this question
02:38:45	DP-Team TNA:	Less about corruption here, more about do you expect to have the tools to render that file type 
02:39:55	E21:	Ok thanks
02:41:37	E09:	Would we expect a full rendering here, or just being able to recover some of data in a document?
02:41:58	E20:	still puzzling out my own thoughts for Q5
02:42:20	E11:	are we assuming good technical skills is the average....? or do we pickup those without good skills later (not looking ahead to avoid spoiling the surprise!
02:42:44	E02:	naughty
02:44:16	E20:	so we assume 'good enough' against 'typical use case'
02:44:21	E11:	exactly - but if amny archives don't have good technical skills the value is much lower and the risk higher
02:45:13	E06:	again, are we thinking about rendering on internal systems. because I could perhaps render outside of my organisation's IT estate but that is not the point
02:45:31	E07:	It is great that you have thought ahead and provided all these definitions!
02:46:22	E02:	yes, active preservation or acquisition (self-deposit vs acq)
02:46:38	E02:	wild vs curated content?
02:47:20	E02:	we take in both, i.e. research data
02:47:23	E20:	exactly!  At ADS we would have sent it back
02:47:26	Alex Green:	Thanks E07. We did try!
02:49:33	E11:	E13 you wouldn't know until it had passed through the front door and you had identified the format needed attention before further processing
02:51:09	E13:	Thanks E11, - its not necessarily the case because the depositor could tell you what they had in their hands
02:53:11	E13:	Is this pre- or post ingest?
02:53:30	E02:	the metadata is not always correct too
02:53:31	E09:	Would the metadata need to be accurate as well? Some files may have the metadata but it might not be accurate
02:53:55	E14:	this one post-ingest
02:54:33	E20:	methinks a lot of ingest is about metadata creation and checking.  So before or after ingest makes a big difference.
02:54:33	E14:	That's where some of the uncertainty lies in this case
02:54:59	E02:	yes, it will be all over the place.  at least it is for us
02:58:18	E02:	it's ok to be a lifer
03:00:17	E01:	Assuming this is a yes/no answer rather than meets requirements 80% of time.
03:00:26	E11:	is this broadly meets the need - just thinking that we always want some new feature / functionality
03:01:33	E16:	i agree
03:01:49	DP-Team TNA:	  E01, archivists would answer yes/no, so the question is how many would answer yes
03:02:40	E13:	In terms of digital asset management system do you mean a software application? We have systems to manage digital objects but not a system
03:02:56	E13:	*not an application
03:03:08	DP-Team TNA:	Does not need to be software
03:03:34	E14:	system(s) or process - "needs of the organisation" key I think
03:10:42	E11:	are we focussing on just born-digital files here or are we including digitised and surrogates aswell?
03:11:07	DP-Team TNA:	all files here
03:12:35	E06:	so this is about having extracted/analysed the technical metadata? because the technical metadata will generally exist because it's often automatically generated/embedded, we just might not know it exists
03:15:05	E17:	Does this also include preserving the technical metadata that’s extracted?
03:16:17	Alex Green:	E06 - yes
03:17:48	Alex Green:	E17 - does the discussion answer your question?
03:19:05	E17:	@Alex—was just wondering it we presume there’s a system to put the metadata
03:19:20	E17:	Or a system to process and then move it to storage
03:19:55	Alex Green:	We aren't assuming systems - it could just be a good process for collecting and managing this data
03:20:42	E17:	Ok thanks!
03:21:25	E11:	I'm not sure I understand commercial in this context?
03:22:09	E11:	thanks for the clarification - that helps
03:24:03	E05:	Earlier question than this  but think I'm struggling because I feel like even if we're saying e.g.'poor technical skills' if my answer to any was more than 0, well then why couldn't do it all if they could do some? If for example extracting technical metadata was done using a few tools/one tool?
03:24:05	E01:	What happens if you have absolutely no idea - do we just pass on this question or put a very wide guess?
03:24:24	E07:	Good question E01
03:25:21	E01:	Many thanks for the clarification!  I think I shall have some fairly wide bands with some of these.... Thx
03:25:24	DP-Team TNA:	E05 - maybe you could still do some, but not as much
03:28:46	E07:	When we answer these questions are we allowed to use google to do research or should we answer just based on existing knowledge (or lack of it!)
03:29:00	E11:	if we identify type A there is a greater likelihood of files being transferred onto AN Other format or type
03:29:14	E07:	darn it!
03:29:16	E07:	:-)
03:29:21	E14:	You're on jury service - no trying ot investigate further!
03:29:59	E07:	It is like the zoom family quiz then
03:30:37	E11:	just thinking that because we transfer off we have less sense of failure for this type
03:31:42	E09:	Would you expect this storage media to be of various ages at beginning of 12 months, or brand new?
03:32:34	E16:	is it 12 months from when the media is transferred to the archive?
03:32:53	E04:	Quite possibly, individual drives can get swapped out instead of whole arrays
03:37:34	E20:	this is hard to work out, but I welcome the exercise to see how we get on
03:38:30	Alex Green:	Yes we struggled when we came up with the questions. But I suppose if it was easy someone would have created a model before!
03:38:42	E16:	yes
03:38:54	E16:	makes sense
03:49:33	E14:	precisely
03:50:18	E14:	yep
03:53:36	E20:	exactly my question too E07